# Unable to make relationship between slim framework 4 guide and the slim-skeleton

**URL:** <https://discourse.slimframework.com/t/unable-to-make-relationship-between-slim-framework-4-guide-and-the-slim-skeleton/3554>\
**Category:** Questions\
**Created:** [October 19, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://discourse.slimframework.com/t/unable-to-make-relationship-between-slim-framework-4-guide-and-the-slim-skeleton/3554 "2019-10-19T04:23:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![hussainb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/4491bb/32.png) [@hussainb](https://discourse.slimframework.com/u/hussainb)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 4:23am UTC](https://discourse.slimframework.com/t/unable-to-make-relationship-between-slim-framework-4-guide-and-the-slim-skeleton/3554/1 "2019-10-19T04:23:51Z")

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I am quiet new to PHP mostly worked on codeigniter, coming from NodeJs background.

I found slim to be a PHP eqivalent to ExpressJs and was wanting to use it ahead.

on the [slim framework home page](https://www.slimframework.com/) instructions to install slim-skeleton is provided:

> php composer.phar create-project slim/slim-skeleton [my-app-name]

once you move on to the [user guide](https://www.slimframework.com/docs/v4/) page there is no mention about the slim-skeleton.

I do understand that the slim-skeleton is a scaffolding for the slim framework but I was not able to make any relationships between the code of the two.

for example, I cannot find the

```auto
// Run app
$app->run();

```

anywhere in the slim-skeleton.

the way slim-skeleton is written, it feels completely different from the User Guide for a new person.  
Some basic documentation should have been provided for slim-skeleton which would help in getting started with.

I wanted to create REST APIs, I wanted to know if its strongly suggested to use slim-framework over creating the whole stuff yourself by following the guide.  
The slim-skeleton feels a lot complex and undocumented for me.

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**Author:** ![FvsJson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FvsJson](https://discourse.slimframework.com/u/FvsJson)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 6:10am UTC](https://discourse.slimframework.com/t/unable-to-make-relationship-between-slim-framework-4-guide-and-the-slim-skeleton/3554/2 "2019-10-19T06:10:02Z")

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I would just start from scratch and just use the [https://www.slimframework.com/docs/v4/start/installation.html](https://www.slimframework.com/docs/v4/start/installation.html) guide. From there you can add autoloading and folder structures to meet your needs.